Episode #236: Dr. Olivia Lesslar on Emotional Autophagy: Clearing Mental Burdens for Physical Healing

How can our mindset, emotions, and life experiences impact our physical health and immune function in ways that are often overlooked by conventional medicine?

We’re diving right into this topic for today’s conversation. Dr. Olivia Lesslar joins the podcast to discuss the field of psycho neuro immunology (PNI) and its impact on health and well-being. She explains the complexity of PNI and how everything in the body is interconnected. Dr. Lesslar emphasizes the power of belief and mindset in influencing health outcomes and highlights the importance of addressing emotions and attitudes in patient care.

We also discuss the role of compassion in medicine and the need to treat the whole person. Our conversation explores the subjectivity of pain, the impact of hypochondria and the nocebo effect, and the potential for small changes to make a significant difference in health.

Dr Olivia works with innovative clinics and organizations worldwide. Her coordinating clinic is Cingulum Health - a neuro center founded by renowned neurosurgeon Professor Charles Teo.

She is an Adjunct Senior Lecturer with The National Centre for Neuroimmunology and Emerging Diseases.

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What We Discuss:

02:13 Psycho Neuro Immunology (PNI)

03:35 The Complexity of PNI

06:16 The Power of Belief and Mindset

10:47 Anxiety and the Importance of Letting Go

17:15 Navigating Hypochondria and Nocebo Effect

20:50 The Power of Small Changes

26:09 The Role of Transient Receptor Potential Ion Channels

39:02 Immunotherapy and Emotions

40:20 The Impact of Stress on Allergies

41:57 The Neglect of Lifestyle Changes in Medicine

50:42 Curiosity and Open-Mindedness in Medicine

53:23 Reframing Threats and Flooding the Body with Safety Signals

01:02:43 The Biology of Belief and Curiosity

Key Takeaways:

• Psycho neuro immunology (PNI) is a field that explores the interconnectedness of psychology, the nervous system, the immune system, and hormones.

• Belief and mindset have a significant impact on health outcomes and can influence the body's physiological responses.

• Emotions and attitudes play a crucial role in overall well-being and should be addressed in patient care.