Medical Education Matters

From Medical Education Matters, welcome to the Philosophies of Medical Education Transformation Lab (P-METaL) podcast series, a forum for thought-provoking discussions at the intersection of medicine, philosophy, and medical education. In this episode, hosts Fabrice Jotterand, and James Woodruff discuss metaphysics in medical education, the fundamental assumptions that drive our practice of medical education, as well as diving into the value of the humanities and humanism in medicine and flourishing. They share their hopes and goals for inclusion of philosophy in medical education and discuss what it means to flourish in our work. Use these timestamps to jump to a topic of interest, or just listen all the way through!1:37—What is metaphysics and why discuss metaphysics in the context of medicine?4:37—Tension between objectivity and subjectivity12:20—The value of philosophical concepts into medical education16:38—Fundamental assumptions in medicine that come from the basic and natural sciences18:14—The techno-science framework and its role in medicine23:38—Talking philosophy with academic leaders25:54—Infusing philosophical questions into medical education curriculum31:56—The value of the humanities in medical education34:40—Ultimate goals for medical students through the addition of humanities and discussion of philosophy36:52—Flourishing as part of medical training and practiceThe Philosophies of Medical Education Transformation Lab (P-METaL) has a dedicated email address for their work, and they'd love your feedback on this episode and future episodes in this series. Please reach them at PMETaLMedEd@gmail.com. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Fabrice Jotterand, PHD, MA (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/center-for-bioethics-and-medical-humanities/people/fabrice-jotterand-phd-ma)James Woodruff, MD (https://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admin/person/james-n-woodruff-md)Producer: Michael T. Braun

Welcome to our first episode of a new series, exploring the intersection of philosophy and medicine. In this episode, host Michael Braun talks with the two hosts of the new series. Fabrice Jotterand, PhD, MA, is professor of bioethics and medical humanities at the Medical College of Wisconsin, where he also directs the Philosophies of Medical Education Transformation Lab (P-METaL). James Woodruff, MD, is dean of students and professor of medicine for the Pritzker School of Medicine at the University of Chicago. In this episode, we explore what philosophy brings to medicine and how Drs. Jotterand and Woodruff will use their passions for this intersection to delve into the complex interplay between these two sometimes divergent disciplines. Use these timestamps to jump to a topic of interest, or just listen all the way through!1:30—What we gain by taking introductory philosophy classes6:45—Understanding "schools" of philosophy9:03—Understanding the term "meta-physics"10:30—Why podcasting on philosophy and medicine? 15:30—The importance of challenging fundamental assumptions in medicine and medical education35:22—New opportunities for philosophy and values to take a central role in medical education40:45—Creating medical education that is robust regardless of changing technologies and knowledge49:23—What listeners should be most excited about for our upcoming philosophy and medicine episodesThe P-METaL Lab has a dedicated email address for their work, and they'd love your feedback on this episode and future episodes in this series. Please reach them at PMETaLMedEd@gmail.com. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuest: Fabrice Jotterand, PHD, MA (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/center-for-bioethics-and-medical-humanities/people/fabrice-jotterand-phd-ma); James Woodruff, MD (https://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admin/person/james-n-woodruff-md)Hosts: Michael T. Braun, PhDProducer: Michael T. Braun

The end of the year is a time for big celebrations, family, and keeping warm (at least here in Wisconsin). With all those big things going on, we wanted to take a moment to recognize the little joys in teaching and learning, things we might otherwise overlook but that are so important to be grateful for. To start the episode, Jeff and Anita talk with Kari Schultz, an education program coordinator on the MCW-Central Wisconsin campus. Starting after Thanksgiving, Kari posts a daily holiday wear and festive decoration photo on her Facebook profile, including special guests. She brings a little bit of holiday joy to her viewers every day, her own holiday spirit squad. You can follow Kari and see her photos here: https://www.facebook.com/kari.schultz.9After that, we consider five categories of little joys, and you can use these timestamps to jump to whatever little joy you want to consider, or just listen to them all. 00:24—Talking with Kari Schultz12:09—Little Joys In The Classroom17:20—In Professional Growth and Development23:48—Collaborations with Colleagues29:06—Epiphanies in Teaching35:47—Making a Difference in the World through EducationHere's a link to the article Jeff mentions: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231129174202.htmAnd to the food pantry that Anita talks about: https://www.peytonspromise.org/Have a little joy to share with us? Email Michael at micbraun@mcw.edu. We wish you a peaceful and safe end of 2023, and look forward to being back with you in 2024!Missed last years gift giving extravaganza episode? Be sure to check it out here: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/a939e420-9aeb-47a7-9ece-840d19ffa2e9This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuest: Kari Schultz (https://www.facebook.com/kari.schultz.9)Hosts: Michael T. Braun, PhD; Anita Bublik-Anderson, MD; Jeff Amundson, PhDProducer: Jeff Amundson; Michael T. Braun

In this episode of our ongoing MEDICC (Medical Education in Countryside Communities) series, Dr. Jeff Amundson talks with Dr. Edward Krall, assistant professor at the Medical College of Wisconsin—Central Wisconsin, about physician wellness, beginning with Dr. Krall's 2014 article, "The 10 Commandments of Physician Wellness." Their conversation expands to consider Dr. Krall's journey in medicine and interest in physician wellbeing, the importance of system factors and team dynamics, and Dr. Krall's late career joy from teaching and coaching medical students. Use these timestamps to jump to whatever part of the conversation you are most interested in or want to revisit after listening to the whole conversation. 1:44—Dr. Krall's journey to academic medicine and his interest in physician wellness5:24—Has anything changed in how difficult it is to be a physician?6:35—The Ten Commandments of physician wellbeing and character traits11:48—The centrality of relationships and team dynamics16:45—Coaching wellbeing with medical students19:05—The role of the medical system in shaping physician wellbeing22:30—The progression of students implementing wellbeing practice27:51—Moving attitudes and systems toward wellbeing31:40—Two take home pieces of advice from Dr. KrallThis podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuest: Edward Krall, MD MS FAPA (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/psychiatry-and-behavioral-medicine/people/edward-krall-md)Hosts: Jeff Amundson, PhDProducers: Jeff Amundson and Michael Braun

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone celebrating this holiday today. And happy Thursday, November 23, to everyone else. In this episode we are filling up our teaching cornucopias by conducting a teaching draft to build the best class that we can. We select from 6 categories all about building the best classroom experience possible. We pick (with associated timestamps)...3:10—Subject Matter—What are you teaching? 7:46—Instructional Style—How are you going to teach the material?13:57—Food—What are you bringing for students to eat? 18:24—Beverage—What are you bringing for students to drink?21:30—Learning Environment—How is your learning environment set up? 29:19—Assessment—How will you assess student learning? 38:28—Reviewing our Cornucopias of Teaching—What all did we pick? In the end, who do you think put together the best class? Let us know! Email Michael (micbraun@mcw.edu) to share what class you want to sign up for and why. We will share responses in a future episode. This episode is dedicated to the memory of Emilios Ellinas, our colleague Herodotos Ellinas's father, who passed away recently. Though we never had the pleasure of meeting Emilios, we're moved by stories of his joy and humor, and hope to do him proud with this fun podcast. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Michael T. Braun, PhD; Anita Bublik-Anderson, MD; Jeff Amundson, PhDProducer: Michael T. Braun

The MedMoth storytelling program is inspired by the Moth Radio Hour and allows medical students, residents, faculty, and staff at the Medical College of Wisconsin to come together for a night of storytelling. Some stories are funny, some are sad, and all touch on the fundamental matter of being a human being involved in medicine. In this episode, Dr. Devarati Syam speaks with Dr. Cassie Ferguson and Dr. Bruce Campbell, two faculty members who helped found the MedMoth event. 00:58—Conversation with Dr. Cassie Ferguson 21:28—Conversation with Dr. Bruce CampbellThe next MedMoth event is Thursday, November 30, 2023. The event is held at MCW's Alumni Center (MEB M1060), 6:30–8:30 PM. Sign up to tell your story here (https://mcwisc.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_el0wvlt7fnaeXwq), or register to attend the event here (https://mcwisc.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3Q4vBE0KQcu8FYa). This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Devarati Syam, PhDGuests: Cassie Ferguson, MD; Bruce Campbell, MDProducer: Michael T. Braun

Teaching can be scary! In this Halloween episode, we address 5 scary elements of teaching and do our best to make them a little less scary. We're joined by Dr. Jim Warpinski, a faculty member at MCW's Green Bay campus. Jump to the fear you want to address first using the listed timestamps, or listen all the way through for a full set of chills and thrills!1. When Technology Fails You (2:35)2. Teaching Topics Outside Your Area of Expertise (7:09)3. Dealing with Dissatisfied or Angry Students (13:35)4. Having to Challenge Long-Held Beliefs (23:30)5. Going Through Difficult Learning Experiences (34:40)What are some of your scariest teaching moments? Email Michael Braun to share (micbraun@mcw.edu). We love to hear from our listeners!Did you enjoy this Halloween episode? Check out 2022's Halloween episode where we resurrected people from medicine's past for a Halloween dinner party. You can find that episode here, or look for it in the list of episodes in your podcast app. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuests: James Warpinski, MDHosts: Michael T. Braun, PhD; Anita Bublik-Anderson, MDProducer: Michael T. Braun

The MedMoth storytelling program is inspired by the Moth Radio Hour and allows medical students, residents, faculty, and staff at the Medical College of Wisconsin to come together for a night of storytelling. Some stories are funny, some are sad, and all touch on the fundamental matter of being a human being involved in medicine. Would you like to participate in MedMoth? There is a storytelling workshop coming up soon that can help you hone your story. On October 24, 2023, 6–8 PM, on MCW's campus at the HUB room A6520. Registration is free and required. Click here to register or paste the URL below into your browser. https://mcwisc.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cS9SIaosAtVO03YThe MedMoth event itself will be held on November 30, 2023. The event is held at MCW's Alumni Center (MEB M1060), 6:30–8:30 PM. Sign up to tell your story here (https://mcwisc.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_el0wvlt7fnaeXwq), or register to attend the event here (https://mcwisc.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3Q4vBE0KQcu8FYa). This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Devarati Syam, PhDProducer: Michael T. Braun

Our guest this episode, Dr. Vanessa Rampton, senior researcher at McGill University, noted in our show outline that the stethoscope changed the way doctors listen to the patient: less patient voice, and more literal listening to the patient. When it comes to technology in medicine and medical education, we've been down the road many times. So what are we ignoring with AI? Are there lessons from the past we can learn? And what risks do we run when we create systems that reinforce biases long recognized? In 2020, Dr. Rampton, with colleagues, published a comment in the Lancet titled "Implications of Artificial Intelligence for Medical Education," and their points are more valid than ever today. Read the article here: https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2589-7500%2820%2930023-6And we hope you enjoy the conversation! This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuests: Vanessa Rampton, PhD (https://rprt.northwestern.edu/documents/rampton-cv.pdf)Hosts: Michael T. Braun, PhDProducer: Michael T. Braun

Medical Education Matters has been releasing new episodes for a year now! Were you with us from the beginning, or are you a new listener? In any case, we invite you to listen in as we discuss some of our favorite moments from the past year of podcasting, what we're excited about for the coming year, and some of the ways we want to interact more with you, our listeners!To that end, our first request is that you send us some feedback, including your thoughts on the show overall, the topics we've discussed (and should discuss), and anything else that strikes your fancy. Let us know if we can read your letter on air! Go ahead and email Michael Braun, micbraun@mcw.edu. We'll be so excited to hear from you. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Jeff Amundson, PhD; Michael T. Braun, PhD; Anita Bublik-Anderson, MD; Herodotos Ellinas, MDProducer: Michael T. Braun

For all the amazing things we've seen AI do, its emotional consequences are just as interesting. In this episode in our Tech in Med Ed series, we talk with Dr. Pok Man Tang, assistant professor in the Terry College of Business at the University of Georgia about his recent work looking at loneliness associated with AI use. Dr. Tang's recent paper "No person is an island: Unpacking the work and after-work consequences of interacting with artificial intelligence," in press at the Journal of Applied Psychology, uses four studies to examine loneliness and isolation associated with AI in the workplace. He discusses this paper and his other work as we consider potential consequences for expanding the role of AI in medical education. Find Dr. Tang's article here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37307359/This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuests: Pok Man Tang, PhD (https://www.terry.uga.edu/directory/pok-man-tang/) Hosts: Jeff Amundson, PhD; Michael T. Braun, PhD; Anita Bublik-Anderson, MDProducer: Michael T. Braun

In this episode of MEDICC, hosts Jeff Amundson and Anita Bublik-Anderson talk with Lori Rodefeld, Director of Rural GME Development & Support at the Wisconsin Collaborative for Rural Graduate Medical Education. What is WCRGME? "The Wisconsin Collaborative for Rural Graduate Medical Education (WCRGME) was established in 2012 to address the shortage of rural primary care physicians through the expansion of rural graduate medical education (GME). It is a network of organizations developing and maintaining rural residency rotations, rural training residency programs, and rural fellowships. " And you can learn more at their website: https://www.wcrgme.org/about-usThis podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuest: Lori Rodefeld (https://www.wcrgme.org/about-us)Hosts: Jeff Amundson, PhD, and Anita Bublik-Anderson, MDProducers: Jeff Amundson and Michael Braun

Dr. Herodotos Ellinas hosts a conversation with University of Wisconsin-Milwakee Chancellor Dr. Mark Mone. They discuss leadership and the path to administrative work for educators; diversity, equity, and inclusion programs in higher education; UWM's Freshwater Collaborative; and vegan cooking!Read more about the Freshwater Collaborative and UWM's School of Freshwater Sciences here: https://uwm.edu/freshwater/This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuest: Mark Mone, PhD (https://uwm.edu/chancellor/about/)Host: Herodotos Ellinas, MD, MHPEProducer: Michael T. Braun

Just like the rest of the world, we here at Medical Education Matters are thinking a lot about the role technology can/does/will play in medical education. Today's conversation is with Dr. George Kubik, futurist, president and chief researcher at the Anticipatory Futures Group, and lecturer at the University of Minnesota. We talk about the future of education, AI and technology's role in it, all with an eye solidly on the lessons of history. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuests: George Kubik, PhD (https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-kubik-6147031/)Hosts: Jeff Amundson, PhD; Michael T. Braun, PhDProducer: Michael T. Braun

Just like the rest of the world, we here at Medical Education Matters are thinking a lot about the role technology can/does/will play in medical education. Today's topic is the role of AI in medical education. We speak with University of Copenhagen professor of Medical Education Dr. Martin G. Tolsgaard, co-author of the recent article, "The fundamentals of Artificial Intelligence in medical education research" published in 2023 in the journal Medical Teacher. Find the article here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36862064/This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuests: Martin G. Tolsgaard, PhD, Dr. Med. Sci., Professor of Medical Education, University of Copenhagen (https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-g-tolsgaard-09197341/)Hosts: Herodotos Ellinas, MD, MHPE; Anita Bublik-Anderson, MD; Jeff Amundson, PhDProducer: Michael T. Braun

Just like the rest of the world, we here at Medical Education Matters are thinking a lot about the role technology can/does/will play in medical education. Today's technology up for consideration is AI text generators and large language models (LLMs) like Chat-GPT and Google Bard. We talk with University of Minnesota's Dr. Clare Forstie from the Center for Educational Excellence about a resource guide she put together on the topic and her views on the role AI plays (and will continue to play) in education and learning. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolGuests: Clare Forstie, PhD, education program specialist, Center for Educational Excellence, University of Minnesota (https://cei.umn.edu/about/cei-staff/clare-forstieHosts: Herodotos Ellinas, MD, MHPE; Michael T. Braun, PhDProducer: Michael T. Braun

Welcome to Medical Education in Countryside Communities! On this episode of MEDICC, host Jeff Amundson talks with education program coordinator Heather Roth and MCW-Central Wisconsin student Grace Wittenberg about their experiences with rural medical education. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolIf you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review! Guests: Heather Roth (https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-school/people/heather-roth)Grace Wittenberg (https://www.linkedin.com/in/grace-wittenberg-a136aa19a/)Host: Jeff AmundsonProduced By: Jeff Amundson, Michael Braun

This Collaboratory Conversations episode features a conversation between Bill Branch and members of his collabortory and Sarah Schaeffer and Walter Parish, about their teams' collaboratories projects related to faculty development, including professional identity formation and support for faculty in medicine and medical education who come from under-represented groups. They update everyone on their progress and then talk about the transformation of medical education. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Michael T. Braun, PhDGuests: William Branch, MD, professor at Emory University School of Medicine (https://med.emory.edu/education/emorydocs/bios/william-branch.html)Sarah Schaeffer, MD, MPH, associate program director for the internal medicine residency and the director of GME diversity for the Department of Medicine, University of California San Francisco (https://ucsfhealthhospitalmedicine.ucsf.edu/people/sarah-schaeffer)Walter Parrish, III, PhD, MSEd, director of diversity and inclusion, NYU Grossman School of Medicine (https://www.linkedin.com/in/walterparrish3/)Producer: Michael T. Braun

This Collaboratory Conversations episode features a conversation between Karen Marcdante, Natalie May, Julie Haizlip, Dave Hatem, Jessica Quaintance, and others, about their team's collaboratories projects about feelings of mattering in medical education and training and the use of learning communities in undergraduate medical education. It was recorded as part of our March collaboratories program meeting. They update everyone on their progress and then talk together about the transformation of medical education. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Michael T. Braun, PhDGuests: Dr. Karen J. Marcdante, MD, professor of pediatrics, Medical College of Wisconsin (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute/people/karen-j-marcdante-md)Dr. Natalie May, PhD, associate professor of research, School of Nursing, University of Virginia (https://www.nursing.virginia.edu/people/nlb7r/)Dr. Julie Haizlip, MD, MAPP, FNAP, clinical professor of nursing, School of Nursing, University of Virginia (https://www.nursing.virginia.edu/people/jah4ub/)Dr. Dave Hatem, professor of medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Massachusetts Chan Medical School (https://www.umassmed.edu/learningcommunities/burncoat_house/house-faculty/mentors/hatem/)Dr. Jennifer Quaintance, PhD, associate research professor, Department of Biomedical and Health Informatics, University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine (https://med.umkc.edu/dir/Quaintance-Jennifer/)Producer: Michael T. Braun

This Collaboratory Conversations episode features a conversation between Deb Klamen and Anna Cianciolo about their team's collaboratories project "the Data Science of Character" and Sean Tackett and his team's project "Blindspots in Medical Education." It was recorded as part of our March collaboratories program meeting. They update everyone on their progress and then talk together about the transformation of medical education. This podcast is brought to you by Medical College of Wisconsin. To learn more about MCW's transformative medical education, visit here: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-schoolHosts: Michael T. Braun, PhDGuests: Dr. Deb Klamen, MD, MHPE, Senior Associate Dean for Education & Curriculum, Professor and Chair, Department of Medical Education, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine (https://www.siumed.edu/debra-klamen.html)Dr. Anna Cianciolo, PhD, Professor, Department of Medical Education, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine (https://www.siumed.edu/anna-cianciolo.html)Dr. Sean Tackett, MD, MPH, Associate Professor of Medicine, General Internal Medicine, Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/details/sean-tackett)Producer: Michael T. Braun