In this episode of the Publishers Playbook, we welcome Ryan Hudson, co-founder of Honey and now founder of Pie.org. They discuss Ryan's journey from building and selling Honey to launching Pie.org, which aims to disrupt the advertising space with a consumer-aligned model. The conversation covers the motivations behind starting Pie, the unique features of their ad blocker, and the monetization strategies they plan to implement. Ryan shares his long-term vision for creating a more vibrant and open internet.