PRETEND

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From cult leaders to con artists and undercover FBI agents, PRETEND exposes those pretending to be someone they're not. read less

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Pretend- a true crime podcast about con artists investigates people living a lie. The show's documentary style offers straightforward reporting, careful analysis, and captivating storytelling. Host Javier Leiva follows each case, risking his safety along the way.

Javier, who also produces the podcast, has worked in TV and marketing. As an investigative podcaster, Javier reported from inside a cult and exposed a woman for selling bleach to cure autism. These are only two of the successes that he shares here.

The complex tales of the most elusive con artists often need more than an hour to tell. Pretend offers a series on the most notorious of these figures. "The Real Catch Me If You Can Series" uncovers the life story of Frank Abagnale, a famous American con man. Did he commit all the crimes he recounted in his autobiography? According to Javier, 90% of his story is false. The host uses facts to disprove each of Frank's falsehoods. Can he "catch a conman in a lie"?

Another series, "The Stalker," discusses a cyber stalker who terrorizes a couple. The police can't find the criminal. They suspect the wife may have a mental disorder and could be the stalker herself. Is this a case of Munchausen by proxy? The thirteen podcast episodes detailing the case reveal chilling reports of child abuse and human failing.

The "Word of Faith Fellowship" series on the podcast tells another kind of story. It examines con woman and "cult" leader Jane Whaley and her husband, Sam. In 1979, they started their new church in North Carolina. Congregants adored them and felt loved. As the years passed, things started to change. Jane and Sam began to control their lives. They'd take followers' children away to live with ministers. There was physical and emotional abuse. Did Sam and Jane get involved in human trafficking? How did members escape their influence? Why does the church continue today?

Pretend- a true crime podcast about con artists may surprise and terrify listeners. The events and lives it reveals are enthralling. Javier provides answers when he can. Listeners can hear new episodes each week.

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Episodes

2003: The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 1
28-01-2025
2003: The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 1
The Telepathy Tapes podcast shot to the top of the charts, making bold claims about telepathic abilities in non-verbal autistic children. But are the claims rooted in science—or something else entirely? In this episode of PRETEND, we take a closer look at the phenomenon, the controversies, and the skepticism surrounding these extraordinary claims. We’ll discuss: ➜ The premise of The Telepathy Tapes and the experiments it presents. ➜ Scientific skepticism surrounding telepathy claims. ➜ Ethical concerns, including the history of Facilitated Communication and its controversies. ➜ Voices from parents, experts, and critics, including Zaid Jilani and Amy Lutz. Resources Mentioned:    Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind. https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe    Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga. https://www.theamericansaga.com/    Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix). https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064 Share Your Thoughts: Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode. Stay Connected: Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition. ➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social ➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/ ➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod ➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nobody Should Believe Me: Sophie Saves Zambia
14-01-2025
Nobody Should Believe Me: Sophie Saves Zambia
Today on PRETEND, we’re featuring the season 5 premiere of Nobody Should Believe Me, a compelling podcast hosted by author Andrea Dunlop that explores Munchausen by proxy abuse. Dunlop’s investigative storytelling sheds light on a complex and deeply troubling form of abuse, offering listeners both empathy and insight. Season 5 kicks off with an in-depth look at Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir, Crowns of Beauty, where Hartman recounts her experiences in Zambia and her journey to becoming the adoptive mother of two Zambian girls. This episode unravels the layers of Hartman’s narrative, revealing her evangelical Christian roots and the persona she crafted as both a martyr and savior. Andrea Dunlop is joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner, a performance artist and transracial adoption coach, who provides nuanced perspectives on the challenges and intricacies of transracial adoption. Together, they explore themes of identity, privilege, and the ways in which personal narratives can obscure uncomfortable truths. Whether you’re a fan of Nobody Should Believe Me or new to the series, this episode promises a gripping and thought-provoking listen. Tune in to hear Andrea Dunlop and her team continue their important work of exposing the hidden dynamics of Munchausen by proxy abuse. Where to Listen: Nobody Should Believe Me is available wherever you get your podcasts. Don’t miss the season 5 premiere, streaming now! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tU5rLsNkx7LeI2GhLlQ4X?si=1e02ca94e6ac4066 Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
BONUS: How to Spot a Con Artist on the First Date and When to Walk Away
26-11-2024
BONUS: How to Spot a Con Artist on the First Date and When to Walk Away
In this episode, Dr. Jan Canty, a psychologist, author, and podcast host, shares essential advice on recognizing and avoiding con artists in modern relationships. Dr. Canty, who experienced betrayal and tragedy in her life, offers insights into the red flags of deceptive individuals and provides practical tips for safeguarding against potential scams. Through her 'Don't Con Yourself' TikTok series, Dr. Canty breaks down each stage of interactions with con artists and how to protect oneself. She also discusses her life’s work in grief counseling, her compelling past, and the importance of trusting your gut feeling in relationships. Tune in to learn more about navigating the complexities of dating and protecting your personal boundaries. 00:20 Jan Canty's Tragic Past 01:05 Recognizing Con Artists 04:34 Understanding Psychopaths and Sociopaths 05:21 First Date Red Flags 14:24 Trusting Your Gut Instinct 16:09 CIA Techniques for Identifying Lies 21:34 Gaslighting 23:29 Dramatic and Unusual Histories 25:10 Understanding the Significance of Tattoos 28:26 The Importance of Personal Boundaries 29:26 Dealing with Missed Warning Signs 32:03 The Dangers of Sharing Personal Information Prematurely 35:14 Early Attempts at Control in Relationships 38:26 Preparing to Exit a Toxic Relationship 46:08 Finding True Love After Hardships PRETEND podcast featuring Jan Canty's life story The Sugar Daddy parts 1 & 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1jXDdZvO197GVomFLseUiq?si=35087f142efd41bd A Life Divided: A psychologist's memoir about the double life and murder of her husband - and her road to recovery https://www.amazon.com/Life-Divided-psychologists-husband-recovery/dp/0578685922 Domino Effect of Murder Podcast https://jancantyphd.com/podcast/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices