Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde

This conversation with the late Rt. Hon. Brian Mulroney, Canada's 18th Prime Minister, was originally posted in August 2020."Some people said, 'well there is racism in Canada but there is no systemic racism.' And to those people I said, 'You've clearly never read the Indian Act, because it reeks of systemic racism.'"The Right Honorable Brian Mulroney, Canada's 18th Prime Minister, is National Chief Perry Bellegarde's guest on this latest episode of the Akhameyimok Podcast. They discuss climate change, overcoming systemic racism against First Nations people, the sweeping recommendations for change in the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples, and the leadership lessons he learned in leading the international fight against the white minority Apartheid regime in South Africa and for the freedom of Nelson Mandela.Brian Mulroney was Canada’s Prime Minister from 1984 to 1993. In that time he oversaw the negotiation and implementation of the US-Canada Free Trade agreement, and then NAFTA. He initiated important environmental reforms, including the Acid Rain treaty with the United States. He was also at the forefront of attempts to make the Canadian constitution more inclusive, trying to bring Quebec into the fold with the Meech Lake accord and then the Charlottetown Accord. He was Prime Minister during the Oka Crisis, thirty years ago this summer, which led his government to establish the Royal Commission on Aboriginal People. It made sweeping recommendations on how to restructure the relationship between Indigenous and non-Indigenous peoples.A special thanks goes out to the Red Dog Singers of Treaty 4 territory in Saskatchewan for providing the theme music for this podcast.The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced in Ottawa by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.

Bryan Trottier needs little introduction. The Hockey Hall of Fame player was a key member and leading scorer for the New York Islanders Stanley Cup dynasty of the 1980's, and then with Pittsburgh Penguins of the early 90's. He is also incredibly proud of his Cree-Metis-Chippewa heritage, and his hometown of Val Marie in southern Saskatchewan. In this fun and fascinating conversation, he talks with Perry Bellegarde about learning to play hockey on the beaver pond on his family ranch, playing bass in his father's country band, his parents advice on overcoming racism as a young hockey player, how the infamous Dave "Tiger" Williams saved his hockey career as a junior player at Swift Current, and of course, his key role in the NY Islanders Cup wins from 1980 to 1983. This is an interview to savour.Bryan's new best selling memoir is called "All Roads Home: A Life On and Off the Ice."The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions in Ottawa.Our theme music is performed by the Red Dog Singers of Treaty Four Territory in Saskatchewan.

The host of the popular CBC Kuper Island Podcast on the challenges and revelations from reporting about one of Canada's most notorious Residential Schools.

Chief Perry is thrilled to be joined Douglas Sanderson and Andrew Stobo Sniderman for a fascinating and thoughtful conversation about their new book, "The Valley of the Birdtail."It is a heart-rending, true story about racism and reconciliation.Divided by a beautiful valley and 150 years of racism, the town of Rossburn and the Waywayseecappo Indian reserve have been neighbours nearly as long as Canada has been a country. Their story reflects much of what has gone wrong in relations between Indigenous Peoples and non-Indigenous Canadians. It also offers, in the end, an uncommon measure of hope.DOUGLAS SANDERSON (AMO BINASHII) is the Prichard Wilson Chair in Law and Public Policy at the University of Toronto Faculty of Law and has served as a senior policy advisor to Ontario’s attorney general and minister of Indigenous affairs. He is Swampy Cree, Beaver clan, of the Opaskwayak Cree Nation.ANDREW STOBO SNIDERMAN is a writer, lawyer, and Rhodes Scholar from Montreal. He has written for the New York Times, the Globe and Mail, and Maclean’s. He has also argued before the Supreme Court of Canada, served as the human rights policy advisor to the Canadian minister of foreign affairs, and worked for a judge of South Africa’s Constitutional Court. And thanks to the Red Dog Singers for our theme song, Interbal.

"The survivors felt if this had been white children, the community wouldn't be the ones having to investigate their own genocide." - Kimberly MurrayThe Ahkameyimok Podcast is back!And for this return episode Chief Perry Bellegarde is thrilled to have Kimberly Murray as his guest. She is the new Independent Special Interlocutor for Missing Children and Unmarked Graves and Burial Sites associated with Indian Residential Schools. That appointment by the federal department of Justice came about after the heartbreaking discoveries of hundreds of unmarked children's graves in former Residential Schools at Kamloops, BC and at the Cowessess First Nation in Saskatchewan, and the hunt is on for more at dozens of former Residential School sites across the country.In her discussion with Perry, Kimberly Murray talks about the technical challenges of searching for graves, overcoming hurdles put up by all levels of government and the police, what her role involves and enables her to do, and what justice looks like for the thousands of children who died from abuse, disease and neglect in Canada's Residential School system.Kimberly Murray is a proud member of the Kanesatake Mohawk Nation. Before taking on her current role as Special Interlocutor, she was the Executive Director of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee from 2010 to 2015. And she was the Ontario’s first ever Assistant Deputy Attorney General for Aboriginal Justice. After that she led the search for unmarked graves at the Six Nations of the Grand River, working to recover the missing children and unmarked burial sites at the Mohawk Institute, which was Canada’s longest running residential school.Ahkameyimok will continue to put out a new interview every couple of weeks, be sure to subscribe where you listen so you don't miss future episodes.And be sure to follow on social media. Just search for @perrybellegarde

****As we move into 2022, we're reposting Perry's episode on Hope, one of the most popular of the past year. We hope it brings you joy and inspiration as we enter the New Year.*******Encore Episode***In his seven years as National Chief, Perry Bellegarde focused on the importance hope: "Always leave more hope in a room than was there when you arrived."Over the run of the Ahkameyimok Podcast, no matter how difficult the conversation or the issue, he always ends by asking his guests this question:What brings you hope?These are some of his favorite answers to that question.01: 18 -- Chief Willie Littlechild - former TRC Commissioner, Member of Parliament, lawyer, social activist and author of the first draft of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.02:24 Dr Lorna Williams - Canada's leading expert on the promotion and revival of Indigenous languages.4:14 William Prince - Award winning and chart topping country music star6:30 Rt Hon Brian Mulroney - Canada's 18th Prime Minister7:40 Dr Dan Longboat - Founding Director of Trent University's Indigenous Environmental Science Program10:42 Marion Crowe - CEO of the First Nations Health Managers Association11:41 Wade Davis, best-selling author, film-maker, explorer, UBC Anthropology Professor12:32 Mary Ellen Turpel Lafond - fmr judge, law professor, children's advocate14:27 Jagmeet Singh - Leader of the federal New Democratic Party of Canada15:13 Bobbie Jo Greenland-Morgan - Grand Chief of the Gwich'in Tribal Council17:40 Kevin Loring - Artistic Director of the Indigenous Theatre, National Arts Centre, Ottawa19:40 Elder Wilfred Buck - leading First Nations astronomy and star lore expert21:52 Senator Kim Pate - international expert in legal and prison reform24:01 Brigadier-General Joe Paul, the highest ranking First Nations officer in the Canadian Armed Forces25:12 Brad Regehr - The first First Nations President of the Canadian Bar Association26:21 Louise Bernice Halfe - Canada's first Indigenous Parliamentary Poet Laureate28:05 Dr Alika Lafontaine - the first Indigenous person elected as the President of the Canadian Medical Association30:03 Romeo Saganash, former Member of Parliament, and leading advocate for the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.31:41 Conner Roulette, First Nations gold medal winning junior hockey star33:09 Chief Cadmus Delorme, Cowessess First Nation, home to 751 unmarked graves found at the Marieval Residential School34:30 Tom Jackson, actor, musician, social activist36:36 Marie Wilson, former Commissioner, Truth and Reconciliation CommissionThe Akhameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast ProductionsTheme music is by the Red Dog Singers, Treaty 4 territory, Saskatchewan

A holiday message from Perry Bellegarde, with best wishes for the year ahead from Perry and the Ahkameyimok Podcast team.

*** In light of revelations that the NHL Chicago Blackhawks covered up a case of sexual abuse of one it's players by a member of it's coaching staff, we are re-posting this powerful interview with former NHL player and sexual abuse survivor Sheldon Kennedy. This interview originally aired in January, 13th, 2021. *** ***This interview contains subject matters and details that may not be appropriate for young listeners. *** Sheldon Kennedy is one of Canada's leading campaigners in the fight against child abuse. The retired NHL veteran and founder of the Calgary Child Advocacy Centre joins National Chief Bellegarde to discuss ways in which the pandemic has made child abuse worse, what can be done to improve that, his own history of abuse by his hockey coach as a teenager, and how telling that story gave him the strength to get his own life on track and help others, including First Nations survivors of Residential Schools. And, on a lighter note, Kennedy talks about how winning CTV's Battle of the Blades renewed his love of skating. Sheldon Kennedy played eight years in the National Hockey League, with the Detroit Red Wings, Calgary Flames and Boston Bruins. As a teenager he led the Swift Current Broncos to a Memorial Cup championship, the best team in Junior Hockey. But it was also at Swift Current that Kennedy was sexually abused for years by his coach, Graham James. When Kennedy revealed this abuse publicly towards the end of his pro career, Graham James was convicted and sent to prison. He has since been convicted for the abuse of several more players. For Kennedy, this marked the start of a life dedicated to supporting and speaking out for sexual abuse survivors. His leadership, including founding the Child Advocacy Centre in Calgary and the Respect Group, saw him being awarded the Order of Canada in 2016. A big thanks goes out to the Red Dog Singers of Treaty 4 Territory in Saskatchewan for our theme music. The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.

*** In honour of the first ever National Day of Truth and Reconciliation on September 30th, we are re-posting this interview with Marie Wilson, who was a Commissioner on the Truth and Reconciliation Commission from 2009 to 2015. This interview was originally published June 3, 2021. ******The subject matter and content of this episode may be triggering for some listeners. The National Indian Residential Schools Crisis Line is accessible 24 hours a day at: 1-866-925-4419 ***"We did hear of children's bones being found in the foundations of buildings when (Residential) schools were dismantled. We heard of children being thrown into furnaces. These were children. The little ones who have woken up in Kamloops this week, these are children calling out to all of us now."Marie Wilson, former Commissioner on the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which gathered testimony on the crimes and abuses against Indigenous children at Residential Schools in Canada, joins the Ahkameyimok Podcast from Yellowknife to discuss the shocking find of a mass grave of 215 children at the Kamloops Indian Residential School. The grave was found on the site of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School at the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation in British Columbia. Dr Wilson discusses her feelings on hearing of the the Kamloops mass grave, her memories of visiting that site as Commissioner, why her work on the TRC from 2009 to 2015 means she is shocked but not surprised by this mass grave and believes there are many more like it across Canada that need to be investigated, and why she believes the Pope and Catholic church, which ran the majority of the Residential Schools, needs to apologize for its role in what the TRC described as cultural genocide. The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast ProductionsOur theme music is performed by the Red Dog Singers, Treaty 6 Territory, Saskatchewan

***Encore Presentation*** ***This interview with Dr Lorna Williams originally aired on Jan 21, 2021 *** What is the state of First Nations languages in Canada? One of the leading experts on the promotion and restoration of Indigenous culture and language, Dr Lorna Wanosts’a7 Williams of the University of Victoria, joins the Ahkameyimok Podcast to discuss that ahead of the Symposium on Indigenous Languages hosted by Canadian Heritage on January 25th. Indigenous languages represent who we are, expressing the wisdom, our worldview, the laws and lives of our ancestors. But in Canada today, just 1 in 5 First Nations persons is fluent in their language. This reality was born out of generations of colonial suppression of our language and cultures, most notably through the genocide of the residential school system. We want our languages to survive into the next centuries and beyond, and this involves some hard work. There is reason for hope, the numbers of First Nations people taking back their languages is increasing. And last year, Bill C-91, the indigenous languages act, was passed into law. It provides funding and a framework for many approaches to revive indigenous languages. It builds on the hope from our Elders who have worked hard to preserve our languages for us. One of those Elders is Dr. Lorna Williams of the Lil’wat First Nation. For over fifty years she has been an Indigenous educator and language specialist, working at all levels, from local to national, most recently as the Canada Research Chair in Indigenous Education at the University of Victoria. For her efforts, Dr Williams received the Order of Canada last year. A big thanks goes out to the Red Dog Singers of Treaty 4 Territory in Saskatchewan for our theme music. The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions

ENCORE PRESENTATION ***This interview with federal NDP leader Jagmeet Singh was originally aired on March 3rd, 2021*** ***With the Akhameyimok Podcast on hiatus and a federal election underway, we are re-running National Chief Bellegarde's best interviews from the past year with leaders and senior members of the main federal political parties to help provide a sense of where they stand on issues important to First Nations and Indigenous people. **** Jagmeet Singh, leader of the federal New Democratic Party and Perry Bellegarde discuss the pandemic, what drew him into politics, overcoming systemic racism, the upcoming election, the importance of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, the environment, and also how the Sikh practice of Chardi Kala shares much in common with the perseverance message of Ahkameyimok. A big thanks goes out to the Red Dog Singers of Treaty 4 Territory in Saskatchewan for our theme song, Intertribal. The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.

ENCORE PRESENTATION ***This interview with the Green Party Leader Annamie Paul was first posted on October 15, 2020, shortly after she won the Green Party leadership and before in-fighting broke out within the Green Party caucus and organization*** ***With the Akhameyimok Podcast on hiatus and a federal election underway, we are re-running National Chief Bellegarde's best interviews from the past year with leaders and senior members of the main federal political parties to help provide a sense of where they stand on issues important to First Nations and Indigenous people. **** Almost the first words in new Green Party leader Annamie Paul's victory speech, spoke of solidarity with Canada's First Nations: "As the descendant of the black diaspora who has suffered its own history of oppression and colonialism, I will always stand with indigenous peoples and their calls to action, and their calls to justice and their fight for self-determination and sovereignty.” In this episode of the Ahkameyimok Podcast, Canada's first black and first Jewish female party leader joins Chief Perry Bellegarde to discuss why she believes First Nations causes are so important, ways to tackle systemic racism, and why social policies are just as important to the Green party as environmental ones. A big thanks goes out to the Red Dog Singers of Treaty 4 Territory in Saskatchewan for our theme music. The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.

ENCORE PRESENTATION ***With the Akhameyimok Podcast on summer hiatus and a federal election now underway, we are re-running National Chief Bellegarde's  best interviews from the past year with leaders and senior members of the main federal political parties to help provide a sense of where they stand on issues important to First Nations and Indigenous people. **** ***This interview with the Liberal Government's Industry Minister, Catherine McKenna, was first posted on April 22, 2021***   On this special Earth Day episode of the Ahkameyimok Podcast, Catherine McKenna, the Federal Minister of Infrastructure and Communities and a former Environment Minister, joins National Chief Bellegarde to discuss the $6 billion in funding for First Nations specific infrastructure projects in the latest Federal budget, why she instructed the Canadian Infrastructure Bank to set aside $1billion in loans for Indigenous specific investments and why infrastructure is a big part of the fight against Climate Change and what role First Nations play in that. To learn more about the $1 billion Canadian Infrastructure Bank Indigenous loan program, visit: https://cib-bic.ca/en/partner-with-us/growth-plan/indigenous-infrastructure/ For more on the work of the Assembly of First Nations, visit: AFN.ca The Ahkemeyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions in Ottawa And a big thanks to the Red Dog Singers, Treaty 4 Territory in Saskatchewan, for our theme song, Intertribal.

ENCORE PRESENTATION ***With the Akhameyimok Podcast on summer hiatus and a federal election now underway, we are re-running National Chief Bellegarde's  best interviews from the past year with leaders and senior members of the main federal political parties to help provide a sense of where they stand on issues important to First Nations and Indigenous people. **** ***This interview with Erin O'Toole was first posted on August 19/2020, just before he won the leadership of federal Conservative Party*** Erin O'Toole is one of the front-runners to become the next federal Conservative Party leader in a vote that takes place Friday, August 21st 2020. In this, his first interview with the Ahkameyimok Podcast, O'Toole lays out his vision for working with First Nations if he were to become leader and Prime Minister. In this interesting and wide ranging interview, National Chief Perry Bellegarde gets O'Toole's views on reconciliation, the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People, cooperation in resource development and management, systemic racism, policing and more. Please note: Peter MacKay and Leslyn Lewis, the other main Conservative leadership candidates, were also invited onto the podcast but declined due to their campaign schedules. Erin O’Toole is the Member of Parliament for the southern Ontario riding of Durham, just to the east of Toronto. He was first elected to Parliament in 2012 and served as Minister of Veterans Affairs in the Harper Government. He is a veteran of the Royal Canadian Air Force and a graduate of the Royal Military College. He also has a law degree from Dalhousie University. Before moving into politics he practiced corporate law in Toronto. A special thanks goes out to the Red Dog Singers of Treaty 4 territory in Saskatchewan for providing the theme music for this podcast. The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced in Ottawa by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.

"I just wanted to buy a painting, really."Kevin Hearn of the Barenaked Ladies is our guest on this episode of #Ahkameyimok. He and Perry talk about his new documentary, "There Are No Fakes," which exposes a massive art forgery ring surrounding the work of legendary Ojibwe painter, Norval Morrisseau.When the Barenaked Ladies started producing chart topping, international hit songs in the late '90's, Kevin Hearn decided he could now afford to buy a painting by his favourite artist, Norval Morrisseau, whose abstract works of Indigenous inspired woodland scenes are celebrated in galleries around the world. Little did Hearn know that that purchase, which turned out to be a fake, would draw him into a bizarre, dangerous and heartbreaking world of art fraud that is destroying the legacy of one of Canada's greatest artists.The documentary "There Are No Fakes," tells Hearns story. It was featured at HotDocs in Toronto and is now available to watch for free on TV Ontario at TVO.orgThe Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.Our theme music is by the Red Dog Singers from Treaty 4 Territory in southern Saskatchewan.

As National Chief, Perry Bellegarde has always focused on the importance hope: "Always leave more hope in a room than was there when you arrived."Over the 57 episodes of the Ahkameyimok Podcast, no matter how difficult the conversation or the issue, he always ends by asking his guests this question:What brings you hope?As his time as National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations comes to an end, after choosing not to seek re-election, we are looking back at some of his favorite answers to that question about hope.They are inspiring, thought provoking and speak to a better future for First Nations.01: 18 -- Chief Willie Littlechild - former TRC Commissioner, Member of Parliament, lawyer, social activist and author of the first draft of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.02:24 Dr Lorna Williams - Canada's leading expert on the promotion and revival of Indigenous languages.4:14 William Prince - Award winning and chart topping country music star6:30 Rt Hon Brian Mulroney - Canada's 18th Prime Minister7:40 Dr Dan Longboat - Founding Director of Trent University's Indigenous Environmental Science Program10:42 Marion Crowe - CEO of the First Nations Health Managers Association11:41 Wade Davis, best-selling author, film-maker, explorer, UBC Anthropology Professor12:32 Mary Ellen Turpel Lafond - fmr judge, law professor, children's advocate14:27 Jagmeet Singh - Leader of the federal New Democratic Party of Canada15:13 Bobbie Jo Greenland-Morgan - Grand Chief of the Gwich'in Tribal Council17:40 Kevin Loring - Artistic Director of the Indigenous Theatre, National Arts Centre, Ottawa19:40 Elder Wilfred Buck - leading First Nations astronomy and star lore expert21:52 Senator Kim Pate - international expert in legal and prison reform24:01 Brigadier-General Joe Paul, the highest ranking First Nations officer in the Canadian Armed Forces25:12 Brad Regehr - The first First Nations President of the Canadian Bar Association26:21 Louise Bernice Halfe - Canada's first Indigenous Parliamentary Poet Laureate28:05 Dr Alika Lafontaine - the first Indigenous person elected as the President of the Canadian Medical Association30:03 Romeo Saganash, former Member of Parliament, and leading advocate for the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.31:41 Conner Roulette, First Nations gold medal winning junior hockey star33:09 Chief Cadmus Delorme, Cowessess First Nation, home to 751 unmarked graves found at the Marieval Residential School34:30 Tom Jackson, actor, musician, social activist36:36 Marie Wilson, former Commissioner, Truth and Reconciliation CommissionThe Akhameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast ProductionsTheme music is by the Red Dog Singers, Treaty 4 territory, SaskatchewanFor more on the work of the Assembly of First Nations, visit AFN.ca

On this Canada Day, a special episode on the devastating and ongoing impact of the Residential School system. The shocking find of 751 unmarked graves at the site of the former Marieval Indian Residential School in Saskatchewan is another heartbreaking validation of survivor accounts of the horrifying abuse and neglect Indigenous children endured at these government funded, church run institutions, whose main aim was wiping out Indigenous culture and identity. Nowhere has the heartbreak been felt stronger than in the Cowessess First Nation, where Marieval operated from 1898 to 1996. Cadmus Delorme is the Chief of the Cowessess First Nation and joins Ahkameyimok to describe what it was like finding so many graves, how they were found, the impact on the community, what needs to be done to begin healing, what justice looks like for the children buried there and what advice he has for other First Nations searching for children who died or were killed at Residential Schools.***The Indian Residential Schools Crisis Line is available 24-hours a day for anyone experiencing pain or distress as a result of his or her Residential school experience. 1-866-925-4419***For more on the work of the Assembly of First Nations, please visit AFN.caThe Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.Our theme music is provided by the Red Dog Singers from Treaty 4 Territory in Saskatchewan.

"For those of us who are survivors of the oppression of our languages and the part of the cultural and physical genocide brought on us by the Church and State that ran Residential Schools... the day the that Bill C-91, the Indigenous Languages Act, received Royal Assent was a memorable occasion that was long overdue."This week, Ron Ignace was appointed as Canada's first ever Indigenous Languages Commissioner. He joins the Ahkameyimok Podcast to talk about his new job, what he hopes to achieve, success stories in the revitalization of Indigenous languages, his experiences at the Kamloops Indian Residential School, and how he was able to keep his Secwepemctsin language despite efforts to beat it out of him at that school.Stsmél̓qen, Ron Ignace, is a member of the Secwepemc Nation in British Columbia and a fluent speaker of Secwepemctsin. He was the elected chief of the Skeetchestn Indian Band for more than 30 years. He has a PhD in Anthropology from Simon Fraser University with a dissertation on Secwepemc oral history. From 2016-2021, he co-chaired the Assembly of First Nations' Chiefs Committee on Languages, where he played an instrumental role in the development and passage of Bill C-91, the Indigenous Languages Act.For more on the Assembly of First Nations work on Indigenous Languages and other issues, visit AFN.caThe Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions.Our theme music, Intertribal, is by the Red Dog Singers, Treaty 4 Territory in southern Saskatchewan.

"The Feds founded the first three federal residential schools in 1883 in Alberta and Saskatchewan. First Nations people formed the majority of the population and were power brokers in that area and one of the ways to deal with them was treaties, the other way to deal with them was to take their children hostages."John Milloy's award winning book, "A National Crime: The Canadian Government and the Residential School System," used ground breaking research into government archives to expose the planned genocide of First Nations people at the heart of the residential school system. It has been described as one of the 100 most important Canadian books ever written.In the wake of the 215 unmarked graves of First Nations children found at the the Kamloops Indian Residential School, Milloy discusses the reasons for the birth of the Residential Schools as a tool to oppression, why it was so brutal, why it continued for so long, and why Canadians continue to be surprised by the horrors of that system, despite repeated high profile exposures of that system over the last 25 years.John Milloy is professor emeritus in the departments of Native Studies and History at Trent University. The Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast Productions in Ottawa.Our theme music is performed by the Red Dog Singers of Treaty Four Territory in Saskatchewan.

***The subject matter and content of this episode may not be suitable for all listeners***"We did hear of children's bones being found in the foundations of buildings when (Residential) schools were dismantled. We heard of children being thrown into furnaces. These were children. The little ones who have woken up in Kamloops this week, these are children calling out to all of us now."Marie Wilson, former Commissioner on the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which investigated crimes and abuses against Indigenous children at Residential Schools in Canada, joins the Ahkameyimok Podcast from Yellowknife to discuss the shocking find of a mass grave of 215 children at the Kamloops Indian Residential School. The grave was found on the site of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School at the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation in British Columbia. Dr Wilson discusses her feelings on hearing of the the Kamloops mass grave, her memories of visiting that site as Commissioner, why her work on the TRC from 2009 to 2015 means she is shocked but not surprised by this mass grave and believes there are many more like it across Canada that need to be investigated, and why she believes the Pope and Catholic church, which ran the majority of the Residential Schools, needs to apologize for its role in what the TRC described as cultural genocide. National Indian Residential Schools Crisis Line: 1-866-925-4419 For more on Residential Schools and the work of the Assembly of First Nations, please visit AFN.caThe Ahkameyimok Podcast is produced by David McGuffin of Explore Podcast ProductionsOur theme music is performed by the Red Dog Singers.